Subject: 1 Chron. 20:3
Dear Steve Roberts,
David also commited adultery with a man's wife and then had that man killed. That does not mean the Bible is teaching that I should go out and commit adultery with some other man's wife and then have that man killed.
This passage is an example of how the Bible is true. This passage shows that David was a terrible sinner. The only reason David's could be such a terrible sinner and still went to heaven when he died was Jesus Christ's death on the cross. There is hope for the sinner if he or she repents.
Vince
Hi Vince,
Thanks for taking the time to write and tell me about David going to heaven due to his repentence and Jesus' death.
I just have a few questions I'm hoping you can help me with.
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How do you know that David repented? The Bible relates the scene of David on his deathbed. He does not repent, but orders his son to commit yet more murders (including one that David had previously promised never to commit). (1 Ki. 2:1-9, 2 Sam. 19:18-23)
- Why do you say these actions of David's were "terrible sins" when the Bible relates that God praised David as always having done "what was right in mine eyes"? (1 Kings 14:8) Why is it that except for the Uriah incident, the Bible claims that everything David did "was right in the eyes of the Lord" (1 Ki. 15:5).
- The people who David sawed asunder and baked in the oven: how do you think they'll react to seeing David in heaven? How will the parents of the children he killed greet David, do you suppose? (Remember: he slaughtered entire villages "leaving none left to breathe" according to the Bible.)
- How is this an example of "how the Bible is true"?
- If Hitler "repented" in his bunker just before his death, will you look forward to spending eternity with him in heaven?
Relevant passages:
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1Kgs:2:1: Now the days of David drew nigh that he should die; and he charged Solomon his son, saying,
1Kgs:2:5: Moreover thou knowest also what Joab the son of Zeruiah did to me, and what he did to the two captains of the hosts of Israel, unto Abner the son of Ner, and unto Amasa the son of Jether, whom he slew, and shed the blood of war in peace, and put the blood of war upon his girdle that was about his loins, and in his shoes that were on his feet.
1Kgs:2:6: Do therefore according to thy wisdom, and let not his hoar head go down to the grave in peace.
1Kgs:2:8: And, behold, thou hast with thee Shimei the son of Gera, a Benjamite of Bahurim, which cursed me with a grievous curse in the day when I went to Mahanaim: but he came down to meet me at Jordan, and I sware to him by the LORD, saying, I will not put thee to death with the sword.
1Kgs:2:9: Now therefore hold him not guiltless: for thou art a wise man, and knowest what thou oughtest to do unto him; but his hoar head bring thou down to the grave with blood.
2Sam:19:18: And there went over a ferry boat to carry over the king's household, and to do what he thought good. And Shimei the son of Gera fell down before the king, as he was come over Jordan;
2Sam:19:19: And said unto the king, Let not my lord impute iniquity unto me, neither do thou remember that which thy servant did perversely the day that my lord the king went out of Jerusalem, that the king should take it to his heart.
2Sam:19:20: For thy servant doth know that I have sinned: therefore, behold, I am come the first this day of all the house of Joseph to go down to meet my lord the king.
2Sam:19:21: But Abishai the son of Zeruiah answered and said, Shall not Shimei be put to death for this, because he cursed the LORD's anointed?
2Sam:19:22: And David said, What have I to do with you, ye sons of Zeruiah, that ye should this day be adversaries unto me? shall there any man be put to death this day in Israel? for do not I know that I am this day king over Israel?
2Sam:19:23: Therefore the king said unto Shimei, Thou shalt not die. And the king sware unto him.
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1Kgs:14:7: Go, tell Jeroboam, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Forasmuch as I exalted thee from among the people, and made thee prince over my people Israel,
1Kgs:14:8: And rent the kingdom away from the house of David, and gave it thee: and yet thou hast not been as my servant David, who kept my commandments, and who followed me with all his heart, to do that only which was right in mine eyes;
1Kgs:15:5: Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.
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2Sam:12:31: And he brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them pass through the brickkiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. So David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem.
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